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Oh, this is lovely – it’s great to see someone else using Substack for process writing for a larger project! I discovered the same thing, and have no idea why Substack works so well for me for a book project (that I plan to publish as a popular/general one rather than a peer-reviewed one) when I could never get into any of blog services (LiveJournal and Dreamwidth are sort of technically ‘blogs’ but never felt like it, and a lot of the people with blogs hated LJ back in the day).

I think I agree with about 93.7% of this post! And I know you’re working through the book sin order of publication which affects a lot of what you can say (though you have some nice foreshadowing with regard to Tiffany, and the Witches sub-series).

I cannot remember what order I read Pratchett’s novels in—I know I started with _Small Gods_ as recommended by a friend of mine (who did a fantastic presentation on the wizards vs. philosophers aspect of Pratchett’s world-building), and loved it. I think I then found some of the Rincewind ones (this would have been in the middle and later 1990s (last century!), and I think it took a few more years for Pratchett’s work to start being widely available in the U.S. I remember being somewhat ambivalent about EQ the first time I read it (and I did not have consider it a feminist novel—now, I would say, it depends on how one defines “feminist”!).

And of course during the 1990s, there was a lot of discourse on “feminist” meaning “a strong female character” (emphasis on the singular! and very misogynistic focus on physical strength) that led to some interesting discussion; I still remember one hilarious take-down of the idea that a S.F.C. makes the text automatically “feminist” that was an analysis of Lara Croft’s big pixels. Bechdel coined the “Bechdel-Wallace” test in regard to movies in 1985, but I think it took a few years to become more widely known, and even then it was widely (mis)understood (if my students at the time are representative) as “if it passes the test, it’s feminist,” as opposed to “minimum to avoid being totally sexist.”

I do think that EQ was the start of Pratchett exploring and critiquing essentialist ideas of gender in his novels, and that over time, his work became feminist, and one of the reasons I describe it that way is that he didn’t focus only on the differences between wizard [man]/witch [woman] but on the differences among and between women—that is, he did what Tolkien and many other (mostly but not entirely male) authors (in many genres, not just fantasy) failed to do, moving beyond the single/token/exceptional women to show women in groups and relationships of various kinds (not just family). And while the witches are a major part of that (culminating, as you say, in the Tiffany Aching series, though I think it started with Agnes/Perdita storyline), it’s not only the witches. They get the most focus, and get to be POV characters (sometimes the groups of women are observed through a man’s eyes—thinking of Vimes observing the group of women working with Lady Sibyl to rescue dragons). And Pratchett being Pratchett, there’s no woo-woo-utopian-sisterhood established (though Magrat does seem to want a New Age version of that at times, but of course that desire runs up against Granny and Nanny; but, and I forget which book makes it clear—maybe Lords and Ladies—even though Magrat’s theory of magic differs from the others, she is a witch, and that means her magic works). But despite some reluctance, the relationships happen (Angua and Cheery).

Now that I’m thinking about it, I can hardly wait for you to talk about Thief of Time and the issue of Auditors taking on corporeal forms (mumblemumblevalaandmaiamumble), and Myria Le Jean’s narrative arc, in the context of the sexist binary of male [mind]/female [body]!

*”Misogyny” vs. “sexism” I am working to integrate Kate Manne’s definitions and “logic of misogyny” (_Down Girl_ https://academic.oup.com/book/27451?login=false) into my thinking these days!

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“So sexist ideology will often consist in assumptions, beliefs, theories, stereotypes, and broader cultural narratives that represent men and women as importantly different in ways that, if true and known to be true, or at least likely, would make rational people more inclined to support and participate in patriarchal social arrangements. Sexist ideology will also encompass valorizing portrayals of patriarchal social arrangements as more desirable and less fraught, disappointing, or frustrating than they may be in reality. Whereas, as I’ve defined misogyny, it functions to police and enforce a patriarchal social order without necessarily going via the intermediary of people’s assumptions, beliefs, theories, values, and so on. Misogyny serves to enact or bring about patriarchal social relations in ways that may be direct, and more or less coercive. On this picture, sexist ideology will tend to discriminate between men and women, typically by alleging sex differences beyond what is known or could be known, and sometimes counter to our best current scientific evidence. Misogyny will typically differentiate between good women and bad ones, and punishes the latter. Overall, sexism and misogyny share a common purpose-- to maintain or restore a patriarchal social order. But sexism purports to merely be being reasonable; misogyny gets nasty and tries to force the issue. Sexism is hence to bad science as misogyny is to moralism. Sexism wears a lab coat; misogyny goes on witch hunts. (79)”

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brett's avatar

Pedantic point; Eskarina does reappear in one of the later Tiffany Aching books.

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